This is sooooo worth a watch:

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Obviously anything involving Shirley Manson is going to be interesting at the very least, and she’s on fine form here. But Lauren Mayberry too is a revelation; I’ve not seen her interviewed before and so I had no idea quite what a powerful intellect was behind those wonderful Chvrches songs.

Also, Shirley Manson tells a Debbie Harry story. I mean, come on.